Two PiGs in a Pod

Two PiGs in a Pod - Andy Ball

Unlock insider expertise in glazing and joinery with Andy Ball, Founder Partner of The Joinery Network (TJN)!
In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, Andy shares his journey—from honing his skills at Profile 22, Synseal, and the Epwin Group to co‑founding his own marketing agency with Sarah Ball. Discover how his passion for sustainable products led him to create TJN, and get a sneak peek at his vision for the network - including plans for FIT Show 2025.
🎧 What You’ll Learn
Andy’s career milestones in the glazing sector
The story behind The Joinery Network and its mission
Why sustainability matters in modern joinery
What to expect from TJN at the FIT Show 2025
Fun facts in our Quickfire Round: Andy’s favourite travel destination, dream car, and go‑to meal
Plus lots more!

Two PiGs in a Pod - Emerald Windows and Doors

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Shauna Brett and the GGP Installer Award Rising Star award winner, Lee Brett from Emerald Windows and Doors – a family-run glazing business based in Swindon.
Lee, a Marketing Apprentice, and Shauna, the company’s Marketing Manager, share their fresh perspectives on the glazing and fenestration industry. From launching a TikTok channel to challenging industry norms, they’re on a mission to stand out and connect with a new generation of homeowners.
🔍 Topics covered:
Life as a young marketer in the glazing and window installation sector
Why Emerald Windows and Doors is doing things differently
Embracing TikTok and social media to attract modern customers
Shauna’s experience as a woman in a male-dominated industry
The power of confidence and breaking gender stereotypes in trades
What the future looks like for them both professionally and for the business
And they take part in our fun quickfire round, including their favorite emoji, office snack, and more!
🏆 Hear from one of this year’s GGP Installer Awards winners and get inspired by the next generation of talent in the home improvement sector.
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Two PiGs in a Pod - Rob McGlennon

In this episode, host George sits down with Rob McGlennon, former Managing Director of Deceuninck UK, who recently retired after nearly 40 years in the fenestration industry.
Rob shares his insights on how the industry has evolved, the best advice he's received, and the wisdom he now passes on. He also dives into the ongoing skills gap, the power of teamwork, and whether he might be tempted back into the trade.
Plus, don’t miss our quick-fire round, where Rob reveals his favourite travel spots, go-to meal, and predictions for the industry’s future!

Two PiGs in a Pod - Kettell Windows

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, host George is joined by Lisa and John Kettell of now award-winning Kettell Windows, a Leicestershire-based installation company celebrating 20 years in business!
Lisa and John share their journey in the glazing industry, reflecting on how their business has evolved over the years. Lisa opens up about her experience as a woman business owner in a male-dominated industry and her passion for bringing apprentices into the trade. Meanwhile, John gives insight into the fenestration market in early 2025, their plans for the future, and diversifying their product range.
And, of course, we wrap up with our signature quick-fire questions—find out who prefers email over phone calls, their go-to meals, and even their ultimate karaoke songs!

Two PiGs in a Pod - Stuart MacGregor

In this episode, host George Lewis speaks to Stuart MacGregor of MacGregor Recruitment, a specialist recruitment agency for the glazing and fenestration sector.
Stuart explains how he ended up in the glazing industry, from starting at Eurocell to eventually starting up his own recruitment business nearly five years ago.
He also gives advice on what recruiters look for in a potential applicant, how to stand out, and the skills and roles that are in high demand.
Stuart also takes part in our famous quick fire question round, answering his go-to meal, favourite destination, and what he hopes the business will look like in five years time.

Two PiGs in a Pod - Brian McDonald

With 28 years in the glazing industry, Brian has seen it all—now he’s leading Forel's UK & Ireland expansion and celebrating their first-ever G-Award win!
In this episode, we dive into:
- How glazing machinery has evolved: AI, automation, and the factory of the future
- The power of PiGs networking events: why they’re a must for the industry
- Brian’s standout PiGs memory, and where he would take the networking events if he ran the event for one night only.
PLUS — Brian takes on our quick-fire round, revealing his dream podcast guest and favorite film! Hit play now and don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share! 

Two PiGs in a Pod — Ryan Green

Clayton Glass Director Ryan Green is the latest person from the glazing community to sit in the Two PiGs in a Pod hot seat.
Ryan explains how he acquired Clayton Glass nearly 20 years ago at the age of 28, despite being an accountant by trade, first impressions of the sector, and how the company and the wider glazing community has a 'family-like' feel to it.
Ryan also discusses what the future may hold for not only Clayton Glass but the wider glazing sector as well, including signing up for FIT Show 2025 on the day of the interview!
Plus, in our quick fire question round, Ryan lets us know his meal of choice, go-to holiday destination, and how he thinks the industry will look in a year's time.

Two PiGs in a Pod — GGF's John Mannell

In the first episode of the new season, George speaks to Glass and Glazing Federation (GGF) Technical Officer and Training Manager, John Mannell.
John discusses his unique journey into the sector, entering via the route of stained glass, despite having a grandfather owning a fabricating business since the 1950s.
John explains how he originally used the GGF for guidance, before becoming Technical Officer over three years ago to provide that guidance to members.
He also discusses recently taking on the role as Training Manager, helping to develop the routes into glazing, via schemes such as Skilled Pathways and GGF Training, and working with companies like Building Our Skills.
Plus, John takes part in our quick fire question round, answering his go-to karaoke song, favourite TV programme, and plans in his role for 2025.

Two PiGs in a Pod - George Lewis

In this episode, usual host George is in the guest hotseat, with Sty Master Sarah Ball taking over hosting duties and asking the questions.
George discusses his route into the glazing sector and his career so far, what he would tell his younger self and how the industry looks from his perspective.
George also talks professionalisation, transferable skills and ‘selling the industry’ to potential newcomers.
He also describes his highlights of his first year at PiGs, the importance of networking events for our sector, and dream podcast guests and locations.
And in our quick fire question round, George has to answer all the questions he has asked throughout the year with no time to prepare, including last thing he Googled, heroes and go-to karaoke song.  

Two PiGs in a Pod - Sam Weber

In this episode, host George is joined by Sam Weber, who has been part of the glazing sector since 1989, and is currently part of Team Sea Soar, a team of rowers taking on the incredible challenge of rowing across the Atlantic Ocean for charity.
Sam explains how he followed his dad into the industry, before venturing out on his own and forging his own career right across the glazing supply chain, and explains his excitement at starting in a new role early next year.
He also gives us the lowdown on his upcoming epic World’s Toughest Row across the Atlantic Ocean this month, how it came about, how he has prepared for it, what he is least looking forward to, and just how much stuff is needed for 50 days out in the water.
Sam also takes part in our quick fire question round, giving us his first and most recent gigs that he has attended, go-to breakfast, and what he sees himself doing in five years time (spoiler alert, it’s more wild challenges!).